tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post658240993318217468..comments2024-03-24T15:06:26.268-07:00Comments on The Gridiron Uniform Database: The Problem With The InternetRob Holeckohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09532701130842826214noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post-76225787408069370452013-11-02T21:22:11.854-07:002013-11-02T21:22:11.854-07:00Came across this past discussion while looking for...Came across this past discussion while looking for photos from the 1933 title game, with the 80th anniversary fast approaching. <br /><br />Of course, you guys have it all figured out correctly, but I thought you'd like to know a couple further details. First, I was able to find different images of the title game than those in the Pittsburgh paper in the Chicago Tribune archives. The Bears were in white, no question. <br /><br />From the 11-20-33 issue of the Chicago Tribune, under the story headlined "Bears and Cardinals lose 3 to 0 Football Battles" comes the following passage on the game between the Giants and Bears at the Polo Grounds:<br /><br />"A 25 yard gain on a combination forward and lateral from Brumbaugh to Hewitt to Karr gave them a fourth successive first down at the 7 yard line and a touchdown seemed certain."<br /><br />Well, that wraps it up in a bow for me. The false title game photo fits the action in that game description pretty darn accurately. The game report continues with the Bears fumbling, hence the 3-0 final. Nicely done guys, and glad I could put an exclamation on the end of your sentence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post-50410279502603355712011-12-18T08:01:19.934-08:002011-12-18T08:01:19.934-08:00Glad we could help! You and your blog are certain...Glad we could help! You and your blog are certainly not alone, as you said, it has been so widely disseminated as being from that game (but I had no idea that the mis-identification went back 40 years and in print, no less!) At some point (perhaps the book you mentioned) that picture was mis-identified and it all has snowballed from there, from one lazy editor who failed to fact-check properly.<br /><br />I had read your blog entry before writing that post yesterday, and I thought about contacting you, but I figured that it was such a widespread thing, and the mis-identification certainly wasn't your fault, not considering how many sources on the internet have it as such, especially the Pro Football HOF.<br /><br />Accuracy is our foremost goal, as well!Rob Holeckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09532701130842826214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post-6718760528263121592011-12-18T07:41:26.459-08:002011-12-18T07:41:26.459-08:00From the author of everything that appears on the ...From the author of everything that appears on the blog "Today in Pro Football History", I appreciate having it brought to my attention that the Hewitt photo is not from the 1933 championship game and will replace it shortly. I should have checked it with a more critical eye, but fell into the trap of accepting it because it has been widely disseminated as being from that game - and not just on the internet! One of the resources I used for my post was the NFL-produced volume "The First 50 Years", published in 1969 (internet? what's that? lol) and including the photo in question as "a historic photograph" of the winning TD in process. Thanks again, I do strive for accuracy!Keith Yowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510256084009978331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post-330656022018871752011-12-17T14:27:15.365-08:002011-12-17T14:27:15.365-08:00That shot of the lateral has bothered me for years...That shot of the lateral has bothered me for years, because it's been repeatedly presented as being from the '33 championship game. <br /><br />It seems as if any historically minded fan could tell you that the first photo was not shot in Wrigley Field. There's no cross-section of Wrigley in a football configuration that looks like that, whereas the Polo Grounds in the '30s was double-decked all around the football field, and had the huge billboards on the outfield walls.<br /><br />This misidentification seems to have been accepted as fact years ago, then perpetuated from one official NFL publication to the next, giving the error a false validity. Thanks, <b>Rob,</b> for correcting the record.<br /><br />And I agree with <b>Timmy</b> that in the Bronko Nagurski era, laterals were a far more frequent occurrence.Tom Farleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02587541338219405553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2168085657783700524.post-8349138176294127132011-12-17T09:42:21.307-08:002011-12-17T09:42:21.307-08:00That's Carl Brumbaugh with the stiff-arm on Ha...That's Carl Brumbaugh with the stiff-arm on Hall of Famer Ken Strong from the '33 Championship game.<br /><br />As to the Bears-Giants game shot from the Polo Grounds, the Bill Hewitt lateral to Bill Karr? In those years, laterals were quite a common occurrence in a game, perhaps 7 or 8 times for each team in a game. As were quick kicks, but I digress.timmy bnoreply@blogger.com